, former white house press secretary to george wfshg bush and karen finney, former dnc communications director and msnbc political analyst. would of my favorites, i might add. good to have you. i want to get p both of your reactions to la pierre's announcement. >> weird. is that a fair reaction to it? yeah. i think -- i think, you know, nra has never been good about understanding the mood of the moment. i think that it was the -- case yesterday. i think will is going to be action on gun control. i think will are some, you know, common sense areas where both parties can agree. in fact, even most gun owners in the country would agree with moving forward on some really common sense actions. putting armed guards in schools is not something i think the country is going to -- they will rather see the investment with maybe more teachers or maybe improving class size and things like that. >> karen, what did you think? >> i thought it was very disconnected and not only from reality but as tony pointed out the majority of gun owners. if you look at the polling that has come out over the course